I’m so excited about this call! We get to hear a supervisor discuss how to deal with Jolly Roger Telephone bots! By the way, this is a new robot named “James Cook”.
This is yet another “Florida Vacation” telemarketer. I won’t even go into the scam itself. If you’ve received these annoying calls, then you’ll appreciate the time this person wastes pitching a too-good-to-be-true vacation package to a robot. That’s ten minutes she’ll never get back. And this telemarketer shop just lost a chance to call a couple thousand numbers while she was on the phone. Well done, James!
But the best part about this call is the the last two minutes. The supervisor gets on the call and he immediately recognizes this as a bot. He couldn’t possibly recognize James Cook, because he’s brand new. But he recognizes the intent of the bot and he then discusses with the agent the things they do to handle these bots. If nothing else, please listen to the last two minutes of this call.
Many of you ask me if the telemarketers have acknowledged the bots or if it reduces the amount of calls you get. Well, here’s proof. It’s not anecdotal. It’s not a suspicion. This is proof that the telemarketers report the telephone numbers and refuse to pay someone for them. I’m not sure how the money flows in this horrible industry, but YOU are costing the industry money when you use the Jolly Roger Telephone bots. So well done and please keep it up!
Also note that he didn’t say “oh, just put that number on our do-not-call list”. This is obviously a number they never want to call again, right? This is proof that there’s no such thing as their own do-not-call list. I think we all knew that anyway, but there it is.
As you know, I LOVE TELECOMMUNICATIONS. Unsolicited outbound telemarketing is a terrible abuse of the network that I love. I created these bots to protect you, me, and the telephone network from the virus of telemarketing and I’m so grateful to all of you for using the service and sharing the news with everyone that THERE IS A REALISTIC SOLUTION TO TELEMARKETING. This call is proof!
Thank you for listening!
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The people you’re taking your revenge upon are minimum wage workers struggling to get by. Being a telemarketer is already one of the worst jobs there is. No one wants that job — they’re working for these companies because they don’t have a better option. While you’re having a chortle at their tears, they’re trying to figure out how to feed their kids because they didn’t make enough sales.
I hate the bots too, and I agree they’re a problem, but there are actual look-into-their-eyes humans that you’re hurting with this.
I don’t expect that this opinion will change your actions, but I would like you to stop long enough to really give it a thought.
Hi Emma. You’re right about the telemarketer agents. I have a lot of sympathy for many of them. The “revenge” is against the telemarketing *industry*, not against individuals. In many cases, I don’t think the agents are aware that they are scamming the callers. These vacation packages are proof. The pitch is “you already paid $x and you just need to pay $y now.” Then they describe a too-good-to-be-true all-inclusive vacation package with no time restrictions and then ask for a credit card. I hope to eventually intercept all of these calls so the *owners* of these companies cannot abuse the telephone network or the consumers any more.
I’m pretty sure that even the telemarketers hate getting telemarketer calls at home. But there are plenty of examples on my YouTube channel of horrible scammers abusing the bots. I think we can agree that there’s no sympathy for scammers that shout profanity at you, right? I’m curious if you like getting telemarketer calls at home. And it’s not enough to say “don’t answer the phone” or “just block them” because there are a lot of people naive enough to fall for these scams. If *you* block or ignore the calls, the telemarketers are more likely to reach those people. And all small-business owners need to answer the phone or risk losing legitimate business.
Are you a telemarketer or have you worked for one in the past? I’d love to hear more about it. I love telecommunications and I’m just trying to protect the network I love. There’s a good chance that the telecommunications network will be crushed under the weight of telemarketing if we don’t come up with a way to stop it.
I really do appreciate your comment though. I hope the telemarketer agents will eventually find other work. I’m all for the free market, but this industry is abusive in many ways and I hope my free-market solution can put a dent in it.
I really appreciate your comment. I have approved it here on WordPress, and since you asked me to post it, I’ll also post it on Facebook so more people see it. Thank you for the comment.
Roger
I’m afraid your narrative is flawed. By your rationale, it’s ok if a thief comes into your parent’s home and steals from them…because most of the people that are victimized by telemarketing scams are elderly.
You might want to think about who these telemarketers are really harming before crying about the people doing the scamming.
There’s a Facebook thread about this at https://www.facebook.com/jollyrogertelephone/posts/783318575203122
I think that our elderly on a fixed income are also at stake here. Telemarketers take advantage of them all the time but they can’t get a job often times the elderly are lonely and and telemarketers take advantage of that. Saddest thing is someone who has no one left in their life barely getting by and they can’t pay the electric bill cuz someone scammed them out of it.
Sorry but if you are calling to defraud people, whether you are aware of it or not (and I find it hard to believe that a poor little min wage earning person cant tell when they are spouting lies) you are still a thief. Under the law, if you are the get away driver in a robbery but didn’t know the people with you were robbing a place, you are still guilty by association.
Gotta say the supervisor wasn’t indignant about the robot caller; professional courtesy, I guess.
Do you know that the people sitting you on the side of these scammers aren’t even real people.Get they work for the scammers and there hoping to shut you down.
..hey roger – love this concept and it can truly, truly help stop the Mortgage Leads Scammer I’ve been writing to you about…….call me…i have lots of evidence on this guys, list of victims you can verify, copy of a vm from him, BBB complaints filed against several of his companies
..he’s made a living doing this since 2011 by my research…… this will be a great guy to stop…
…oh yeah, and i did a little digging into the fake locksmith scam you mentioned, also interesting !
// u have my contact info…thanks!!!
I’m taking a totally different take on this – in order to stop (or slow) these telemarketers/scammers, I think you have to follow the money. I.e. someone is paying them to do this – in this case the “Coca Cola Eye” or any of the other clubs that the telemarketer mentions. They’re paying these folks (possibly unknowingly, via some generic marketing budget). Boycott the “Coca Cola Eye” or call/write them and let them know you will never patronize their business because of their involvement in telemarketing. One of two options could happen: if they are involved, they may rethink this aspect of their “marketing” budget. If they’re not involved, you can bet their lawyers would like to know about these telemarketing companies using their businesses as part of their scam and will act accordingly.
I’m not saying to stop doing this (by all means, it’s great), but that there’s more to be done about stopping/slowing this scourge.
I think I got a similar call. I conferenced in the 4991 number, and had hold music for about 18 seconds, then got the telemarketer who introduced himself. Whitey Whitebeard responded with “yeah … OK”. Then, without Whitey having to say anything else, a bot came on the line apologizing for the inconvenience, claiming that they would be removing my name from the list, and asking for a three business days for it to take effect.
The way that it only took two words of Whitey’s voice to get the bot message made me think that this particular predictive dialing software had some kind of button to mark the phone number as protected by a bot, that the telemarketer had heard Whitey’s voice before, and had setup the system to handle bot-protected numbers.
So I guess if I answer I should use a lot of Hello’s, ums and ahs, and ramble on about some random topic. When a supervisor comes on, do the same.
It seems Tmobile will allow dual ring on cell phones so I wouldn’t have to forward calls.